For one reason on another I found myself computing Gröbner bases over fields which are not . Thus, my interest in Sage’s interface to Singular and Magma increased quite a bit again recently (before I was mainly using PolyBoRi). Hence I wrote two patches which need review (hint, hint):

**#10331**

A natural question when it comes to Gröbner basis computations is of course how much resources a particular input system is going to require. For many systems (in fact it is conjectured that it holds for *most* systems) it turns out one can estimate the degree which will be reached during the computation by computing the degree of semi-regularity of the homogenisation of the system, i.e. one computes the first non-zero coefficient of the following power series:

where are the respective degrees of the input polynomials. While there is a Magma script readily available for computing the degree of semi-regularity (by Luk Bettale) we didn’t have it for Sage.

sage: sr = mq.SR(1,2,1,4)
sage: F,s = sr.polynomial_system()
sage: I = F.ideal()
sage: I.degree_of_semi_regularity()
3

Thus, we expect to only reach degree three to compute a Gröbner basis for :

sage: I = F.ideal()
sage: _ = I.groebner_basis('singular:slimgb',prot='sage')
Leading term degree: 1.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 56.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 69.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 461.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 535.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 423.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 367.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 0.
Leading term degree: 1.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 39.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 38.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 37.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 36.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 35.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 34.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 33.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 32.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 31.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 30.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 29.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 28.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 27.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 26.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 25.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 24.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 23.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 22.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 21.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 20.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 19.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 18.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 17.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 16.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 15.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 14.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 13.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 12.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 11.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 10.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 9.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 8.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 7.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 6.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 5.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 4.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 3.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 2.
Highest degree reached during computation: 3.

Which leads me to my next point.

**#10571**

It’s nice to see how far a particular computation is progressed and to get some summary information about the computation in the end. Hence, a new patch which enables live logs from Singular and Magma in Sage.

sage: _ = I.groebner_basis('singular:slimgb',prot=True) # Singular native
1461888602
> def sage584=slimgb(sage581);
def sage584=slimgb(sage581);
1M[23,23](56)2M[56,eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbb32](69)3M[69,bbb69](461)3M[100,bbbbbb74](535)2M[100,beebbbbbb3](423)2M[23,eeeebbbbbb0](367)3M[28,eeeeebb0](0)
NF:399 product criterion:16403, ext_product criterion:0
[7:3]1(39)s(38)s(37)s(36)s(35)s(34)s(33)s(32)s(31)s(30)s(29)s(28)s(27)s(26)s(25)s(24)s(23)s(22)s(21)s(20)s(19)s(18)s(17)s(16)s(15)s(14)s(13)s(12)s(11)s(10)s(9)s(8)s(7)s(6)s(5)s(4)s(3)s(2)sss
(S:39)---------------------------------------
>
sage: _ = I.groebner_basis('magma', prot=True) # Magma native
Append(~_sage_, 0);
Append(~_sage_, 0);
>>>_sage_[126]:=_sage_[128];
_sage_[126]:=_sage_[128];
>>>Append(~_sage_, 0);
Append(~_sage_, 0);
>>>_sage_[86]:=GroebnerBasis(_sage_[126]);
_sage_[86]:=GroebnerBasis(_sage_[126]);
Homogeneous weights search
Number of variables: 40, nullity: 0
Exact search time: 0.000
********************
FAUGERE F4 ALGORITHM
********************
Coefficient ring: GF(2^4)
Rank: 40
Order: Graded Reverse Lexicographical
NEW hash table
Matrix kind: Zech short
Datum size: 2
No queue sort
Initial length: 80
Inhomogeneous
Initial queue setup time: 0.009
Initial queue length: 48
*******
STEP 1
Basis length: 80, queue length: 48, step degree: 1, num pairs: 8
Basis total mons: 264, average length: 3.300
Number of pair polynomials: 8, at 25 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 6.00 [8], reductors: 10.00 [8]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
8 + 8 = 16 rows / 25 columns, 32% / 37.641% (8/r)
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [8]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 1 time: 0.000, [0.001], mat/total: 0.000/0.009 [0.005], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 2
Basis length: 88, queue length: 48, step degree: 2, num pairs: 32
Basis total mons: 340, average length: 3.864
Number of pair polynomials: 32, at 169 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 3.88 [32], reductors: 7.12 [192]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
32 + 192 = 224 rows / 293 columns, 2.2733% / 5.8884% (6.6607/r)
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [8]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 2 time: 0.000, [0.003], mat/total: 0.000/0.009 [0.008], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 3
Basis length: 96, queue length: 69, step degree: 3, num pairs: 69
Basis total mons: 472, average length: 4.917
Number of pair polynomials: 69, at 540 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 13.20 [69], reductors: 5.50 [343]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
69 + 343 = 412 rows / 719 columns, 0.94387% / 2.4223% (6.7864/r), bv
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [69]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.010
Step 3 time: 0.010, [0.015], mat/total: 0.000/0.019 [0.023], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 4
Basis length: 165, queue length: 736, step degree: 3, num pairs: 461
Basis total mons: 1368, average length: 8.291
Number of pair polynomials: 461, at 802 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 10.35 [461], reductors: 7.49 [654]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
461 + 654 = 1115 rows / 804 columns, 1.0789% / 2.7301% (8.6744/r)
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.010 + 0.000 = 0.010 [129]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
Number of unused reductors: 2
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.020
Step 4 time: 0.030, [0.022], mat/total: 0.010/0.049 [0.045], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 5
Basis length: 294, queue length: 2094, step degree: 2, num pairs: 132
Basis total mons: 1669, average length: 5.677
Number of pair polynomials: 132, at 149 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 2.00 [132], reductors: 5.22 [148]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
132 + 148 = 280 rows / 149 columns, 2.4856% / 7.1242% (3.7036/r)
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [0]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 5 time: 0.000, [0.001], mat/total: 0.010/0.049 [0.046], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 6
Basis length: 294, queue length: 1962, step degree: 3, num pairs: 848
Basis total mons: 1669, average length: 5.677
Number of pair polynomials: 57, at 85 column(s), 0.000
Average length for reductees: 2.00 [57], reductors: 2.51 [84]
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
57 + 84 = 141 rows / 85 columns, 2.7117% / 8.4127% (2.305/r)
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [0]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 6 time: 0.000, [0.000], mat/total: 0.010/0.049 [0.046], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 7
Basis length: 294, queue length: 1114, step degree: 4, num pairs: 1098
Basis total mons: 1669, average length: 5.677
Number of pair polynomials: 0, at 0 column(s), 0.000
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
0 + 0 = 0 rows / 0 columns, 0% / 0% (0/r), bv
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [0]
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 7 time: 0.000, [0.000], mat/total: 0.010/0.049 [0.046], mem: 7.9MB
*******
STEP 8
Basis length: 294, queue length: 16, step degree: 5, num pairs: 16
Basis total mons: 1669, average length: 5.677
Number of pair polynomials: 0, at 0 column(s), 0.000
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000, column sort time: 0.000
0 + 0 = 0 rows / 0 columns, 0% / 0% (0/r), bv
Before ech memory: 7.9MB
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [0]
After ech memory: 7.9MB
Queue insertion time: 0.000
Step 8 time: 0.000, [0.000], mat/total: 0.010/0.049 [0.046], mem: 7.9MB
Reduce 294 final polynomial(s) by 294
16 redundant polynomial(s) removed; time: 0.000
Interreduce 40 (out of 294) polynomial(s)
Symbolic reduction time: 0.000
Column sort time: 0.000
40 + 0 = 40 rows / 41 columns, 10.976% / 24.736% (4.5/r)
Row sort time: 0.000
0.000 + 0.000 = 0.000 [40]
Delete 1 memory chunk(s); time: 0.000
Total reduction time: 0.000
Reduction time: 0.000
Final number of polynomials: 278
Number of pairs: 759
Total pair setup time: 0.000
Max num entries matrix: 1115 by 804
Max num rows matrix: 1115 by 804
Total symbolic reduction time: 0.000
Total column sort time: 0.000
Total row sort time: 0.000
Total matrix time: 0.010
Total new polys time: 0.000
Total queue update time: 0.030
Total Faugere F4 time: 0.049, real time: 0.046
>>>_sage_[126]:=0;
_sage_[126]:=0;
>>>
sage: _ = I.groebner_basis('singular:slimgb',prot='sage') # Singular parsed
Leading term degree: 1.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 56.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 69.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 461.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 535.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 423.
Leading term degree: 2.
Leading term degree: 2. Critical pairs: 367.
Leading term degree: 3.
Leading term degree: 3. Critical pairs: 0.
Leading term degree: 1.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 39.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 38.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 37.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 36.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 35.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 34.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 33.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 32.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 31.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 30.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 29.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 28.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 27.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 26.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 25.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 24.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 23.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 22.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 21.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 20.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 19.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 18.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 17.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 16.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 15.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 14.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 13.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 12.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 11.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 10.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 9.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 8.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 7.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 6.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 5.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 4.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 3.
Leading term degree: 1. Critical pairs: 2.
Highest degree reached during computation: 3.

Note, that these logs are all live, i.e. the are displayed during the computation as soon as the respective system makes them available.

Both patches are up for review on Sage’s trac server.